Nintendo Wii appreciation thread

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#42 • • ville Guest
mitä enemmän nintendon, pleikkain ja xbox:n juttuja lukee, sitä varmemmaksi tulen siitä, että nintendo on oikesti itselle järkevä hankinta. Jos ja kun aikaa/kiinnostusta ei ole 20h/vko konsolille, niin pleikkari ja xbox taitaa olla samantien aika poissuljettuja vaihtoehtoja....

helposti omaksuttava, tyylikäs, addiktiivinen ja ainutlaatuinen on ne mitä lähden hakemaan, maailman pisimmät peli, tajunnanräjäyttävät efektit ja ennennäkemättömän kalliit julkaisut voi suosiolla jättää väliin :)
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#43 • • akir0 Guest

maailman pisimmät peli, tajunnanräjäyttävät efektit ja ennennäkemättömän kalliit julkaisut voi suosiolla jättää väliin :)



Mites musta on tuntunu, että konsolipelien pituus se senkun on vaan lyhentyny (paitti jos on hermoja keräillä joka helvetin tilpehööri mukaansa). Taitaa olla aika monessa tapauksessa keskimääräinen peliaika jo reilusti alta 10h.
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#44 • • ville Guest


Mites musta on tuntunu, että konsolipelien pituus se senkun on vaan lyhentyny (paitti jos on hermoja keräillä joka helvetin tilpehööri mukaansa). Taitaa olla aika monessa tapauksessa keskimääräinen peliaika jo reilusti alta 10h.



Vaikea sanoa, oon viimeaikoina pelannut niin vähän, mutta tod näk pitää paikkaansa. Ultravaikeita pelejä ei taideta enää paljon tehdä?

Mutta siltikin mä kaipaisin sellaista peliä, jota voi pelata silloin tällöin ja joka kerta hommasta saa jotain irti. Monet pelit nykyisin sellaisia, että pelkästään täydellisen ohjaamisen hallitseminen vie aikaa aika paljon ja siten homma on lähinnä turhauttavaa :(
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#45 • • akir0 Guest

Mutta siltikin mä kaipaisin sellaista peliä, jota voi pelata silloin tällöin ja joka kerta hommasta saa jotain irti.



Sen takia ainaki ite tykkään pelailla FPS-pelejä. Niitä ei tarvi tahkota kerralla kovin pitkään ja jos sattuu olemaan ees jotenkin nerokas/viihdyttävä (esim. half-life 2, quake 4, fear), niin toimii hyvin tollaseen random-pelailuu.
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#46 • • Samus Aran Guest

Ultravaikeita pelejä ei taideta enää paljon tehdä?



Kyllä niitä tehdään vieläkin, ne vaan kuuluu sinne hc osastolle. Esimerkkeinä Ikaruga, Dodonpaichit, Gradius V, ym. shmupit. Vähän enemmän mainstream peleistä mm. Viewtiful Joe täyttää vaikean pelin kriteerit, ollen samalla poikkeuksellisen laadukas paketti. Poislukien kaikkein hooceimmat shmupit, niin nykyään vaan monet vaikeetkaan pelit ei oo samalla tavalla epäreiluja, kuten vaikkapa Ghost n Goblinsit aikanaan. Eli pelisuunnittelu on tietyllä tavalla kehittynyt, mutta harmi kyllä, yleisesti ottaen monilla muilla osa-alueilla on otettu takapakkia...

Ohjaimen ja ideologian ansiosta Revolutionille tulee varmasti useita helposti lähestyttäviä, mutta silti diippejä pelejä. Ja sen lisäks, Metroidit, Zeldat, yms. pitkät eeppiset seikkailut -> all bases covered.
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#47 • • Samus Aran Guest
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200604/N06.0407.1251.24078.htm

Red Steel comes from the Ubisoft Paris team, which is comprised of industry veterans who worked on franchises like Prince of Persia, Far Cry Instincts, Ghost Recon, and Splinter Cell.

You'll have to wait till the magazine hits the streets to find out. We answer these simple questions and many more in our eleven-page hands-on report. Look out for massive screenshots side by side with pictures of gamers actually demonstrating what you'll do with the Revolution remote.



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Game Informer subscribers should start to receive their May issues any day now, so keep your eyes peeled.



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#48 • • Samus Aran Guest
Ensimmäiset kuvat pelattavasta Revolution pelistä vuotanut nettiin:

http://www.endangeredgamer.blogspot.com/

Kakkos kuvasta näkee miten ohjain reagoi aseen käyttökulmaan, ns. lisäbrassailu sallittu ;P sweet mama, nyt namustaa...

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#49 • • George Shield Guest

Kakkos kuvasta näkee miten ohjain reagoi aseen käyttökulmaan, ns. lisäbrassailu sallittu ;P sweet mama, nyt namustaa...
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Yep, tästä se Revon voittokulku alkaa. Tarvis hommata pari lisäkättä, niin vois ampua "John Woo"-styleeee!

Ekoiksi screenshoteiksi yllättävän nätin näköistä grafiikkaakin.
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#50 • • phanatic Guest
Ah! En jaksa odottaa! Toivottavasti vehje julkaistaan Euroopassakin vielä tänä vuonna.
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#51 • • ville Guest


Yep, tästä se Revon voittokulku alkaa. Tarvis hommata pari lisäkättä, niin vois ampua "John Woo"-styleeee!



Todellakin ... ei epäilystäkään kummalla konsolilla on tarjota enemmän uutta: ps3 vai revolution :)



Ekoiksi screenshoteiksi yllättävän nätin näköistä grafiikkaakin.



Asiaan varmaan vaikuttaa se, että laite ei taida tukea HD resoluutiota. Pienemmälle resolle tehoa varmasti löytyy hyvin.
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#52 • • ensivian Guest


Yep, tästä se Revon voittokulku alkaa. Tarvis hommata pari lisäkättä, niin vois ampua "John Woo"-styleeee!



Todellakin ... ei epäilystäkään kummalla konsolilla on tarjota enemmän uutta: ps3 vai revolution :)


Onneksi ohjain on langaton. Vois tulla ihmisten olohuoneissa rumaa jälkeä kun pieni sisäinen Jack Bauer herää.

Mutta tosiaan. Pitää kyllä nostaa Nintendolle hattua. Ensiksi olin äärimmäisen skeptinen tuon ohjaimen ja koko konsolin suhteen. Vaan nyt mitä pidemmälle ollaan tultu, niin sitä enemmän tuo kuumottelee. Melko varmasti tulee cube korvattua tuolla kapistuksella jossain vaiheessa :)
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#53 • • Samus Aran Guest
Tässä yhen tyypin kokoama pikainen tiivistelmä GI:n Red Steel artikkelista (boldasin muutamia syystä tai toisesta mielenkiintoisia detaljeja):

Details:

-Game development started shortly after E3 2005. Ubisoft saw and demoed the controller before E3 2005.

-Ubisoft Paris took their idea directly to Iwata and Miyamoto, and were given the go ahead. After that meeting they were given prototype controllers. The article states that Ubisoft worked "closely" with Nintendo's engineers in Japan on the title

-Game Informer mentions that while conducting the interviews with Ubisoft, they were handed the "latest version" of the controller

-During the beginning of the game, you are encouraged to use your weapons ruthlessly, but as the game progresses you become more proficient and strategic.

This gameplay idea led Ubisoft to decide to give the game a martial arts setting. "Enter the Yakuza"

-The first third of the game will be all about being "brutal by necessity"

-You will be less precise and favor more devastating weapons (machine guns)

-As you progress and become more precise, smaller guns will be used
-"The goal...is to use five bullets to kill five enemies" -"When fighting with this level of skill, the music and sound effects will reflect it, remaining calm and peaceful"-"

-"When you fight brutally, the sounds around you grow increasingly more intense"

-"Audio feedback"

-Freeze shot: by fighting effciently you fill the Freeze Shot gauge...fighting chaotically causes to decreases

-When the gauge is filled you can hit a button to momentarily stop time, and then target specific locations on enemy bodies


-Headshots thus are tempting, but non lethal shots, such as shooting guns out of enemy hand, can be more beneficial

-By defeating high ranking leaders who command others and sparing their lives, you will be rewarded. He will offer you respect and help (guns, help, new weapons, alternate paths, etc)

-Respect plays a MAJOR part in the game

More later

-Flailing your sword isn't a smart idea

-Specific motions with the controller will trigger combos (in the final game)

-Tracing an X in the air, for instance, will unleash a devastating attack

-You can stop these combos at any time by simply pausing your own movement. So if you do something that leaves you open to attack, you won't be screwed


-New moves will be taught to you by two mentors in the game

-One will teach you gun tactics, and another will teach sword tactics

-If you don't show the proper respect to them, they won't help you

-Friendly/respectful interaction is tied to the controller

-You signal "yes/no" answers by nodding the controller up or down or shaking it from side to side

-You show extra respect by bowing to the masters

-Ubisoft is still coming up with other interactions


-"You can act disrespectively as well: there are no cut scenes in the game - all conversations take place in game, as in Half Life 2. However unlike that game, characters wont keep prattling on if you walk away from them. They will react angrily to your imputent behavior"

-Staying in the master's good graces is key: they give you missions that can be tackled in any order

-You track down the gang leaders and try to turn them to your side. If you don't, they will join Tokai's (the main villian) gang

-You have to prove you are worthy to them by battling them and sparing their lives.

-You will need as many of them with you as possible to face Tokai. Without their help, you'll have a rough time when you finally face him

-You turn gang leaders to your side by besting them in battle and stopping a deadly blow miliseconds before it strikes

-Training sessions are offered by the two masters so you can hone your skills

More later

Multiplayer:

-Split screen multiplayer with traditional deathmatches

-Totally original multiplayer modes Ubisoft is not revealing yet. Wait until E3


-They didn't talk about Nintendo Wi Fi (NDAs). Full details haven't been revealed yet

-Revolution works by placing a small sensor bar either above or below any TV

-You can stand at any angle and not lose any accuracy. You can even take your controller to a friend's house and instantly start playing without syncing up the controller

-"Perhaps most impressive is the fact that although splitscreen reduces the amount of onscreen space you are playing in, you don't have to make smaller movements - you can gesture as wildly as you want, and it won't interfere with the other player's onscreen quadrants


Game Informer's hands on:

-The two triggers on the front of the analog unit activate ducking and jumping. The analog stick controls movement, and the revmote controls aiming. No rails.

-Level consisted of shooting ranges that popped out from behind cover
"Aiming with the controller is as simple as using a laser pointer. You point your hand at a target and hit the trigger on the underside of the controller to fire

-"Unlike other FPS games, which tie the camera and aiming together, Red Steel's camera follows your aim with a slight delay. If, for example, you point to the edge of the screen, the camera will turn to re-center on your view after a second. With the sensitivity of the controller, a standard FPS control would move too much, potentially making the player feel ill


-"Thanks to the improved reaction that the controller offers, the team can create gunfight scenerios that would be extraordinarily diffilcult with a standard controller"

-Most console FPS games limit their enemies to horizontal planes to prevent player frustration, but targets on a verticle plane are just as easy to hit with the Revolution controller

-You can aim at a target as quickly as you can move your hand
-In the demo targets popped up on rooftops and in second story windows, as well as behind cover points on the ground, and all were equally easy to hit

-While you can quickly shoot enemies anywhere on screen, Red Steel never feels in a light-gun game - this is a true FPS, one that feels like it has drawn from the best of both the PC and console shooter worlds


-According to lead game designer Oriola, it takes roughly three seconds to turn completely around around in most console shooters, while it takes about one-quarter second in a PC game. In Red Stel, it takes one second

-AI characters will care for themselves. They will go for cover, attack you while you're reloading. They focus on risk management

-"They won't walk around a table to get to you. They will simply jump over the table"

-"The benchmark for their intelligence and aggressiveness, says Oriola, is the PC title F.E.A.R., which has widely been praised for it's AI"

-Destructable environments. There's a pic of a giant explosion on a carm with gang members being thrown left and right by the blast. Nice effects. The lighting on the explosion and the store signs is pretty good

-GI: we found Red Steel most enjoyable to play while standing up

-Strafing is extremely easy and effortless

-"Aiming felt similar to using a PC mouse, and it's possible to quickly explore every direction in a three-dimensional space with quick gestures"

-"In the finished game, you will be able to push forward with the controller to knock over an object to use for cover, pull it backwards to reload, and twist it to lead behind walls"

-Lob grenades with the controller, or roll them on the ground like a bowling ball


-"gangsta style" shooting is cool

-Total immersion. Feels like you are living the game

-GI: the Revolution is real

-Andy: It could change the very way all games are played now and forever



George Harrison:

-Harrison admits that a mere uber powered Gamecube would wind up doing just as bad as the GC. Because of this, Nintendo decided to do something totally different

-Their main goal was to revive the Japanese market. The DS was to be the first shot at this (and it has clearly succeeded).

-Art direction can be just as expressive as photo-realistic graphics. He mentions that the Simpsons wouldn't be nearly as funny if it was live action

-Revolution will be a multiple of the GC in terms of capibilities

-Nintendo is still deciding what will be packed in the Revolution. Right now a controller and a nunchuk add on will be, but Nintendo is thinking about adding another controller as well. No mention of the shell

-Nintendo is shooting for a worldwide Revolution launch this year

-"Clearly, for us, the Japanese market might be the most important - it's the home market, it's the chance to reset the clock to the main competition, which is Sony"

-On price, as compared to the 360: "Yes, our goal is to come in at a slightly more mass market price"

-Nintendo is considering some like XBL Marketplace

-Harrison mentions that they learned a lot of lessons from the PS2. In terms of having a wide variety of software and the fact that the strongest tech doesn't always win

-"The other thing we recognized is that you really make your reputation in the first year. You've got to deliver software, not just at launch, but you've got to deliver software in the first six to nine months after launch. It has to be solid software. In GC, we didn't have that, we had kind of a drought for six months after it launched. By that time your reputation starts to solidify and it's hard to reverse that after awhile."

-$50 games will not be the standard on the Revolution, although he does say that there could be some games that cost $60

-Compares the challenges Nintendo has in terms of marketing the Revolution to those it had marketing the...Virtual Boy

-You can't simply show gameplay or people won't see the difference. He mentions that game commercials used to show people on their couch playing the game, and that the industry moved away from that. He says Nintendo might get more into that with Revolution marketing

-Nintendo still hasn't chosen a cost barrier for the Revolution's Virtual Console

-Possibly 20 games at launch. He says they haven't seen many of the games licensees have

-"Maybe a third will be Nintendo games"

-Red Steel is a Revolution launch title, and will broaden appeal like GoldenEye 64 did

-"We had no choice but to be succesful with the DS."


:)
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#56 • • George Shield Guest
WII WILL ROCK YOU!

Ihan ok nimi...
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#58 • • miikkaL Guest
Hirvein nimi ikinä! Missään! Koskaan!

'Come and check out my wii"
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#59 • • Samus Aran Guest
Erikoisherkkua :D
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#60 • • Samus Aran Guest
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"Mushroom Kingdom"

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