Sequencers -> Logic Studio

Updeittausta:

XP alustana, performance tweaks:
http://www.tweakxp.com/tweakxp/performance_tweaks.asp

Suosittelen... ja noi audio/buffer asetukset kannattaa toki fiksata miten haluaa, koska onhan jokainen ympäristö kuitenkin tavallaan erilainen.

Sit vielä tuosta Cosmicin hehkuttamasta audioloopista, et se siinä "logicin mallinnetussa piuhaviidakossa" on aina ollut bonuksena, et tälläisiä virityksiä voi tehdä. Samoin audioraitoja, tai sisääntulevia raitoja voi sidechainata vaikka ES1:n filtterien läpi... (Instrumentiks audio-thru, siitä synan 'editor/controllers' -kohdasta kanava ja -> sidechain).

Nomuttaas palataan...

thc

Labs Best Award for Logic Platinum 5
May 08th 2002



Impressing the editors of MacUser,the British magazine for high end Macintosh specialists, with its functionality, quality and well thought-out ergonomics, Logic Platinum 5 was declared the best product in a recent comparison between Steinberg's Cubase VST/32 5.1 and MOTU's Digital Performer 3.0.1.

According to MacUser, Logic's unique and powerful approach to controlling MIDI devices gives the Emagic sequencer a big advantage over the Steinberg and MOTU products. The comparison states that the Environment allows the user to "quickly customise Logic to do almost anything you want...we believe it's a much better way to link and configure internal synths and external MIDI devices". Another decisive fact is Logic's clarity and simplicity for editing and arranging. "Logic's Arrange window has always been a pleasure to work in. It also manages to somehow avoid the over-profusion of complicated buttons and menus afflicting its rivals." In addition, the editors' drew particular attention to Logic's built-in plug-ins, which "are distinguished by their excellent interfaces". Last, but not least Logic offers "the biggest range of audio drivers".

The conclusion: "Logic Platinum...has become a byword for power and flexibility, thanks to its unique object-oriented design...Logic is the market leader".

You can read the review in full length in the current May 2002 issue of MacUser. Extracts are published at [url=http://www.macuser.co.uk.]www.macuser.co.uk.[/url]

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Ja Logicin 5.1.2. päivitys at
http://www.emagic.de/english/support/download/update.html

[ 16 May 2002: Message edited by: Coma ]

Joo, no definitely Cubase on parempi jos teet softavääntöö, mut professinal.-meininkiin siirryttäessä Logic on kyllä osoittanut kyntensä. Paha lähteö tarkentamaan, mutta eiköhän tämänkin topikin lukijat ihan diggaile Logicista. Vastaväitteitä vaan jos siltä tuntuu Mä jaksan vääntää

Originally posted by R24:

Miten niin cubase on parempi softaväännössä?
Siis ihan käytännössä.

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Enemmänkin tällä viitataan sinne kustomoinnin ja mukautuvan studion puolelle... palaan tähän later, vaatii vähän näpyttelyä :)

Sillä välin:

Logic Audio DSP performance table
http://www.digitalnaturalsound.com/logic_dsp/perform.shtml

Jos tarvii siis kompuutteriosastoa miettiä ja tutkia miten eri laitteistokokoonpanot vaikuttaa.

Joo-o, toki SX on varmasti hieno, mutta sehän on nimenomaan updeitattu nyt kilpailemaan Logicin kanssa. Suuri osa featureista on kuitenkin ollut jo Logissa ja siitä niitä on myös rankalla kädellä kopioitu.

Itse olen kans käyttänyt monia erinäisiä sekvenssereitä ihan täyspäiväisesti (TR & TB -series/MMT8/Cubase@AtariFalcon030/Logic/blah blah blah who cares) ja silti Logic korjaa potin kotiin :)


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THis is a modified snippet from my former website...
Each program handles data editing and manipulation in a slightly different way but they all feature a similar (similar means similar...not identical) collection of editing windows which usually include;

a main "arrangement" window
a "piano roll" editor
an "event list" editor
a "score" editor
a "controller drawing" editor - Hyperedit in Logic Audio/part of Grid edit in Cubase etc.

So, why do I prefer Logic Audio if the feature set is so similar between programs?

This comes down to personal taste with the way the software works and also personal requirements. The following is by no means an exhaustive look at EVERY facility, but rather a few cool things that make Logic Audio (LA) unique/a good choice.

This said...it comes down to personal choice...and comfort level as alluded to by the other guys.

Stability, reliability, speed. This is not to say that the other programs are not stable, fast etc.

LA has always had very good audio/MIDI and external (SMPTE) synchronisation.

LA has always been 32-bit. The 32-bit refers to the code underlying the program. Other "bit" confusion issues revolve around the quality of audio. Logic Audio's AUDIO engine has been 32-bit for years. Cubase recently went to 32-bit, with version 5. Digital Performer is also 32-bit. The 32-bits in this area relate to the overall speed and efficiency of an application when running on a 32-bit operating system. Without getting in too deep here, a 32-bit app on a 32-bit OS will make more efficient use of memory, resources etc. in the computer and will be more stable than a 16-bit app running on a 32-bit operating system. This equates to more effects, audio tracks, MIDI tracks etc.

Multiple driver types supported. Pretty much any audio device driver can be used with LA on Windows and Mac - MME, DirectSound, ASIO, EASI plus direct support for a number of devices on each platform. This means that multiple hardware devices can be used simultaneously.

Until recently, LA was the only program that featured "screensets" which allow you to recall open edit windows, zoom positions etc. with a single (or multiple) keystroke(s).

Similarly, LA allows you to define hundreds of custom key commands (computer keyboard shortcuts) to suit the way YOU think and work. Without mentioning names...some of the other apps are very limited in this regard, or don't allow it at all.

LA has the Environment page where you can manipulate MIDI data in ways that are impossible (or extremely difficult, at best) in other applications. The Environment also allows you to set up a virtual representation -and realtime controls for- all of the gear in your studio...and while Cubase and Cakewalk have comparable facilities and Opcode's Vision integrates with OMS (Open MIDI System) to do similar things...LA's Environment is infinitely more flexible/powerful.

LA has always had an integrated stereo sample editor. Until recently, some of the other apps didn't have a sample editor of ANY kind!

LA had the Digital Factory - a collection of audio manipulation tools - first...and to this day, some of the facilities have not been matched by the other apps.

Version 4.0 (and up) of LA has more effects than it's competition. It is now entirely possible to do a finished mix, without compromise, in LA - provided that you have enough computing power ;-)) Some of the effects are unique to Logic Audio. Subjectively, they sound as good as, if not better, than some commercial third-party offerings.

Multiple plug-in formats supported. LA Mac supports Premiere, AudioSuite, VST, TDM and it's native format. LA Windows supports VST, DirectX and it's native format. Some apps offer limited support of one or two formats. Both Win/Mac versions support ReWire. This allows the use of software synthesizers, samplers, e-pianos and a vast range of DSP effects, of course.

Of note is the fact that LA's mixing interface allows the recording and realtime playback of automation data. Automation of all mixing parameters - volume, pan etc. plus all realtime effects parameter manipulation is faithfully recorded and played back.

LA supports ProTools, and with the ESB-TDM add-on, you can feed Logic's internal audio engine (including all FX etc.) into the TDM aux busses.

LA was the first sequencer to offer a fully integrated sampler as an option - the EXS24 - available for separate purchase. The EXS24 is very tightly integrated into LA, so it's use marries the Sample Editor - a tool you will make use of daily - with a range of sample management and audio manipulation facilities. This ensures a level of consistency in working methods which makes the EXS24 a breeze to use.

LA is the only program which can be used with the EVOC20 Vocoder, the EXS24 Sampler, the ES1 and ES2 analogue modelled synthesizers and the EVP88 modelled electric piano. If you want the sounds and facilities of these software instruments, you must have a member of the Logic sequencer family.

LA has very good scoring facilities for a program of this type. While I personally don't use the scoring facilities that often, most users are happy with them. For the hardcore notation guys and gals who require extremely precise score editing, I would suggest a standalone scoring program like Finale or Sibelius...but, before going in this direction, check out LA's scoring...you may find it has more than enough notation power for you.

Subjectively, Logic's interface is better. I'm not talking about colours, icons etc. but about things like functions you need being at hand on a per-window basis. This context sensitive menuing system means that as you bring a particular editing window to the foreground, only the features which are relevant to that window/editing task are available. In other apps, the standard menu lists appear regardless of which editor is opened. This can make the menus cluttered. Other interface aspects are the screensets and key commands mentioned earlier, plus cascading menus for Environment objects, sample management (with the EXS24) and more. All of this combined, plus loads of other features, accelerates the use of Logic.

The Logic Control hardware units can be added to a Logic 5 system, allowing you to "drive" the software remotely. Featuring motorised faders, transport controls, jog/shuttle wheel etc. etc. these devices accelerate Logic's use big time...and make mixing easy, fun and fast.

Away from features of the program...but very relevant...is that Emagic are very good at delivering "bug fix" sub-releases in a timely fashion. When these "fixes" arrive, they actually work. I won't take this any further, but read between the lines a little here.....
Emagic also add a lot of facilities between "point oh" upgrades - i.e. 4.0, 5.0 etc. which are available as free downloads.

Online support...with forums like this one...and the Logic Users Group and many others, Logic's is great and AFAIK, unmatched by the other apps. This is due to the fact that LA is used by more "pros" than the other apps, which means that the guys/gals who can help you out are often very experienced. If you choose Logic, you'll never be alone.

Hope this helps...


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