no jopas oli lost. sama boogie vuodesta toiseen, ei enää mitää super zomg wtf -matskuu. lähinnä sellasta perusviihdettä. :) :(
eipä nuo seasoneitten alut oo koskaan päräyttäny.. loppua päin on aina lähteny rullaamaan
olipahan jakso!
oli kyllä
Olihan se ihan alltime top-jaksoja, good shiznit! Btw, alla Damon Lindelofin kanssa Lostia päätöikseen luotsaavan Carlton Cusen kommentteja käsikirjoittajien lakon loppumisen jälkeen:
"What came out of your meeting with ABC today?
Cuse: Damon [Lindelof] and I are going to try and make five more episodes before the end of May, which is ambitious. But, we've found ourselves in situation where we had eight episodes of story planned, and we're going to try to fit that into five hours of the show. Even though it's going to be very hard to execute, we felt like any less would be doing a disservice to the story we had planned. We really want to give the fans the best possible experience and ending that we can to Season 4.
Any chance that the first of the five episodes will air the week after that last pre-strike episode- thus eliminating any scheduling gap?
Cuse: No, there's probably going to be four weeks between the airing of the first batch of episodes and our new episodes.
What will happen to the three "lost" episodes? Will they roll over into next season's 16, or will they vanish forever?
Cuse: Damon and I remain committed to producing the 40 additional hours of the show that we promised. We haven't figured out exactly when we'll put those other three on, but we're not eliminating them from the show. You will get those three episodes downstream."
"What came out of your meeting with ABC today?
Cuse: Damon [Lindelof] and I are going to try and make five more episodes before the end of May, which is ambitious. But, we've found ourselves in situation where we had eight episodes of story planned, and we're going to try to fit that into five hours of the show. Even though it's going to be very hard to execute, we felt like any less would be doing a disservice to the story we had planned. We really want to give the fans the best possible experience and ending that we can to Season 4.
Any chance that the first of the five episodes will air the week after that last pre-strike episode- thus eliminating any scheduling gap?
Cuse: No, there's probably going to be four weeks between the airing of the first batch of episodes and our new episodes.
What will happen to the three "lost" episodes? Will they roll over into next season's 16, or will they vanish forever?
Cuse: Damon and I remain committed to producing the 40 additional hours of the show that we promised. We haven't figured out exactly when we'll put those other three on, but we're not eliminating them from the show. You will get those three episodes downstream."
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Things I Noticed - "Confirmed Dead" by Vozzek69
Posted by DarkUFO at 18:31
Well, at long last, things are finally coming together. LOST's number of mysteries is winding down, and the number of answers are beefing up. The mysteries presented this episode are really not all that mysterious. Under scrutiny, this episode revealed a hell of a lot more that you might first realize. To see it, all you need to do is some creative deduction.
We have met the enemy... and we are him.
The story has always been circular, but never has it been more obvious until this episode when our four new friends arrive on the island. What greets these fresh-faced newbies that dropped from the sky? An island full of cheering survivors happy to be rescued? Yeah right. Maybe two or three seasons ago, but not now.
"Light em' up!" -
Miles standing in the jungle, Jack telling him he's surrounded by guns. Seeing him smirk at Jack, non-believing until a bullet whizzes by, a mirror-image of Jack - a mirror image of the situation the 815'ers encountered allllll those episodes ago. It was funny to watch, but it was alarming too. Look how easy it was for our main characters to become the very thing we all hated so much - the simplest of questions unanswered, the disparaging looks, the sarcasm, the jadedness...
Now imagine that you're Charlotte for a minute. You arrive smiling happily, awestruck at the beauty of the island. "Hey look! Flares! My friends are there!" Yeah that's nice. You ask innocent questions. Someone starts to answer you, but someone else tells him to shut up. You're disarmed. Then someone swipes your radio and straps it to a dog that runs off into the jungle. What the hell is going on? None of this makes any sense! Hehe, sure it does (to us at least). "What? Don't you want to be found?" Nah, not really. C'mon Charlotte, get with it - before someone slugs two bullets into your chest. Oops, too late.
The 815 survivors have cool jungle moves. The 815 survivors have rifles and guns. The 815 survivors have a camp, a really weird agenda (some of them anyway), and about half of them have no desire to leave the island. Sound a little familiar? You bet. Our beloved 815'ers have come full circle. They've executed their own purge, but the Others aren't truly gone: the 815'ers have become the Others - without even knowing how.
THAT'S HOW SLICK THE ISLAND IS.
He is Starting to Believe
This isn't the first time Locke's smiled into a rainstorm, nor is it the first time he predicted when it would begin or end. He learned to believe at first. He even lost faith at one point. But now, Locke has completely surrendered himself to revel in his connection with the raw power of the island. He's the chosen one - he's Neo from the Matrix, flexing his muscles and watching the fabric of the island's reality ripple around him. With Ben gone Locke has evolved from player to master of the game, at least for now.
Locke is Jacob's perfect, razor-sharp tool. He's focused, determined, and Terminator-like in his objective. Locke is untainted by the pride or repeated failures of Ben - just watch his reaction to Hurley's mention of the cabin. Instead of the jealously Ben felt when Jacob first spoke to Locke, Locke smiles admiringly at Hurley, almost proud of his vision. This makes Locke the better ally, the better right-hand man for Jacob. He will do whatever it takes to reach the end goal - without the complications or distractions of a daughter, a power struggle, or a fertility project.
By The Way... You Might Wanna Stay
Ben's mind games with Sawyer weren't purely recreational - as with anything Ben does, there's always some kind of agenda. At this point, Ben's resigned himself to the fact that at least some of the 815'ers are going to leave the island. Needling Sawyer about not really having anything to go home to, and riding him about Jack/Kate, Ben was planting seeds in an effort to make him stay.
For this reason, I don't think Sawyer will be one of the Oceanic Six. Sawyer will stay, leaving Kate forlorn and depressed and bitchy in the flash forwards. But... that's a good thing. Because I predict Sawyer will be the one reason Jack and Hurley will eventually convince Kate `to go back'. She loves him. It's obvious at this point that `going back' is inevitable, and most likely not possible unless ALL of the Oceanic Six (the living ones, anyway) use their golden tickets in the same plane. End of season finale? Possibly.
Romantic stuff aside, the important thing to note is that Ben's still planning. He still believes the end game is within reach, but knows that he must have all the players present. `Everyone is here for a reason'. Jack & co. leaving at this point may be inevitable, but Ben's 10 steps ahead and plotting on ways to get them back to the island.
Dead Naomi Creeped Me Out
How'd they make Naomi look so... dead!?!? Am I the only one? Her eyes (and face) had that glassy look people have when filmed with their eyes open underwater. Maybe they did something like that?
Who Are We to Argue With Taller Ghost Walt?
So far, Sawyer has the best line of the season. His Yoda reference was on the weak side, but this line more than made up for it.
Watching Locke's followers this episode, I think some of them may be thinking twice. Hurley for one, and Sawyer certainly isn't taking anyone at their word without serious questioning. Locke's confidence is motivational, but his fanaticism is going to spook a lot of people out. I think he realizes this at times, which is why he stopped to show his gunshot wound and explain things a little bit... something Ben didn't often do.
Abaddon & Company
Okay... so you've got a multi-million dollar organization with near limitless resources. You stage an entire plane crash under water - down to rotting bodies and everything - complete with people who `find' it and film it - all to convince the general public that Oceanic Flight 815 really did crash into the ocean and more importantly, that no one survived.
Never mind the impossibility of a 747 staying wholly intact during a 5000 meter drop through ocean waters, or that such a depth would crush the thin aluminum hull of the airplane like a little kid balling up tin foil. For some reason, it's important to show the public that everyone's dead. Why? Hell if I know. Because if an airliner left Australia and never arrived in Los Angeles, I wouldn't need a dive team to be convinced it's probably resting on the ocean floor. Video footage is way overkill.
But okay, you spent the money. What's done is done. And now that everyone's convinced, and nobody is looking for the plane anymore, it's time to send a crack crew of experts to the island in order to obtain your objective: retrieve Ben Linus. Navy Seals? SAS? Black Hawk helicopters? Nah. Let's hire a drunken chopper pilot who called into the hotline, disbelieving the whole crash thing. And let's get a ghosthunter, an anthropologist, and a scatterbrain physicist to go also. We'll send a single female soldier to ensure their safety, in a four-seat chopper. Rock and roll.
Alright, enough sarcasm. My point here is that this is nothing but more Dharma bullshit. The five people who made it to the island are no more in the loop about what's really going on than the fools who sat in the Pearl hatch launching marble notebooks mindlessly into the jungle. Miles, Dan, Charlotte, Frank - they might believe their objective to be Ben Linus, but in my opinion that's just secondary. Don't get me wrong, I DO think that Abaddon & Co's goals certainly do include stopping whatever it is Ben is trying to accomplish. But I think the brains behind the operation know that such an accomplishment could be achieved even without Ben (i.e. Locke's new job). Which is why, for the sake of stopping the end event from happening, they take the Oceanic Six off the island.
Now, I don't think they could reach the island without the four people in that chopper. Abaddon knows this. Naomi's out of the loop too, she thinks the team is absurd - but he doesn't have to explain it to her. His `Get them in, get them out, make sure no one gets killed' speech is all fluff - he could care less what happens to them so long as they bring back the O6. We already know the island can't be found by normal means. It takes special people to get in... to be LET in. Frank the drunken pilot was already supposed to be on the island. Fate swapped places with his friend Seth, but his connection is most evident. Putting him in command of that chopper might well have been the only way for them to find the island (or metaphorically, to let the island find them). In short, Abaddon's tricking his way in.
Dan's got some type of connection too - he's crying when he sees the crash footage and doesn't have a clue why. He's a terrible liar, and seems overwhelmed by the freighter people - innocent and honest. Miles has some sort of gift enabling him to speak to the dead - an invaluable asset on the island since the dead already seem to have a voice of their own. His dust-buster does nothing but cover his voice as he shakes dead souls down for money, which is probably how they convinced him to go. And Charlotte I'm not sure of, but Abaddon got her there easily enough by duping her with Dharma tricks. The polar bear in the desert wasn't the first time she'd seen that logo, and she was chomping at the bit to go. Details are sketchy. One thing's for sure - the whole team is in the dark. Their own superiors "can't come to the phone right now", and none of them look very confident. Another thing I'm pretty sure of is that Ben's never been off island - photo or no photo. Unless you count him being off island the way Charlie was off island last episode, which makes just about anything possible.
Things I Noticed - "Confirmed Dead" by Vozzek69
Posted by DarkUFO at 18:31
Well, at long last, things are finally coming together. LOST's number of mysteries is winding down, and the number of answers are beefing up. The mysteries presented this episode are really not all that mysterious. Under scrutiny, this episode revealed a hell of a lot more that you might first realize. To see it, all you need to do is some creative deduction.
We have met the enemy... and we are him.
The story has always been circular, but never has it been more obvious until this episode when our four new friends arrive on the island. What greets these fresh-faced newbies that dropped from the sky? An island full of cheering survivors happy to be rescued? Yeah right. Maybe two or three seasons ago, but not now.
"Light em' up!" -
Miles standing in the jungle, Jack telling him he's surrounded by guns. Seeing him smirk at Jack, non-believing until a bullet whizzes by, a mirror-image of Jack - a mirror image of the situation the 815'ers encountered allllll those episodes ago. It was funny to watch, but it was alarming too. Look how easy it was for our main characters to become the very thing we all hated so much - the simplest of questions unanswered, the disparaging looks, the sarcasm, the jadedness...
Now imagine that you're Charlotte for a minute. You arrive smiling happily, awestruck at the beauty of the island. "Hey look! Flares! My friends are there!" Yeah that's nice. You ask innocent questions. Someone starts to answer you, but someone else tells him to shut up. You're disarmed. Then someone swipes your radio and straps it to a dog that runs off into the jungle. What the hell is going on? None of this makes any sense! Hehe, sure it does (to us at least). "What? Don't you want to be found?" Nah, not really. C'mon Charlotte, get with it - before someone slugs two bullets into your chest. Oops, too late.
The 815 survivors have cool jungle moves. The 815 survivors have rifles and guns. The 815 survivors have a camp, a really weird agenda (some of them anyway), and about half of them have no desire to leave the island. Sound a little familiar? You bet. Our beloved 815'ers have come full circle. They've executed their own purge, but the Others aren't truly gone: the 815'ers have become the Others - without even knowing how.
THAT'S HOW SLICK THE ISLAND IS.
He is Starting to Believe
This isn't the first time Locke's smiled into a rainstorm, nor is it the first time he predicted when it would begin or end. He learned to believe at first. He even lost faith at one point. But now, Locke has completely surrendered himself to revel in his connection with the raw power of the island. He's the chosen one - he's Neo from the Matrix, flexing his muscles and watching the fabric of the island's reality ripple around him. With Ben gone Locke has evolved from player to master of the game, at least for now.
Locke is Jacob's perfect, razor-sharp tool. He's focused, determined, and Terminator-like in his objective. Locke is untainted by the pride or repeated failures of Ben - just watch his reaction to Hurley's mention of the cabin. Instead of the jealously Ben felt when Jacob first spoke to Locke, Locke smiles admiringly at Hurley, almost proud of his vision. This makes Locke the better ally, the better right-hand man for Jacob. He will do whatever it takes to reach the end goal - without the complications or distractions of a daughter, a power struggle, or a fertility project.
By The Way... You Might Wanna Stay
Ben's mind games with Sawyer weren't purely recreational - as with anything Ben does, there's always some kind of agenda. At this point, Ben's resigned himself to the fact that at least some of the 815'ers are going to leave the island. Needling Sawyer about not really having anything to go home to, and riding him about Jack/Kate, Ben was planting seeds in an effort to make him stay.
For this reason, I don't think Sawyer will be one of the Oceanic Six. Sawyer will stay, leaving Kate forlorn and depressed and bitchy in the flash forwards. But... that's a good thing. Because I predict Sawyer will be the one reason Jack and Hurley will eventually convince Kate `to go back'. She loves him. It's obvious at this point that `going back' is inevitable, and most likely not possible unless ALL of the Oceanic Six (the living ones, anyway) use their golden tickets in the same plane. End of season finale? Possibly.
Romantic stuff aside, the important thing to note is that Ben's still planning. He still believes the end game is within reach, but knows that he must have all the players present. `Everyone is here for a reason'. Jack & co. leaving at this point may be inevitable, but Ben's 10 steps ahead and plotting on ways to get them back to the island.
Dead Naomi Creeped Me Out
How'd they make Naomi look so... dead!?!? Am I the only one? Her eyes (and face) had that glassy look people have when filmed with their eyes open underwater. Maybe they did something like that?
Who Are We to Argue With Taller Ghost Walt?
So far, Sawyer has the best line of the season. His Yoda reference was on the weak side, but this line more than made up for it.
Watching Locke's followers this episode, I think some of them may be thinking twice. Hurley for one, and Sawyer certainly isn't taking anyone at their word without serious questioning. Locke's confidence is motivational, but his fanaticism is going to spook a lot of people out. I think he realizes this at times, which is why he stopped to show his gunshot wound and explain things a little bit... something Ben didn't often do.
Abaddon & Company
Okay... so you've got a multi-million dollar organization with near limitless resources. You stage an entire plane crash under water - down to rotting bodies and everything - complete with people who `find' it and film it - all to convince the general public that Oceanic Flight 815 really did crash into the ocean and more importantly, that no one survived.
Never mind the impossibility of a 747 staying wholly intact during a 5000 meter drop through ocean waters, or that such a depth would crush the thin aluminum hull of the airplane like a little kid balling up tin foil. For some reason, it's important to show the public that everyone's dead. Why? Hell if I know. Because if an airliner left Australia and never arrived in Los Angeles, I wouldn't need a dive team to be convinced it's probably resting on the ocean floor. Video footage is way overkill.
But okay, you spent the money. What's done is done. And now that everyone's convinced, and nobody is looking for the plane anymore, it's time to send a crack crew of experts to the island in order to obtain your objective: retrieve Ben Linus. Navy Seals? SAS? Black Hawk helicopters? Nah. Let's hire a drunken chopper pilot who called into the hotline, disbelieving the whole crash thing. And let's get a ghosthunter, an anthropologist, and a scatterbrain physicist to go also. We'll send a single female soldier to ensure their safety, in a four-seat chopper. Rock and roll.
Alright, enough sarcasm. My point here is that this is nothing but more Dharma bullshit. The five people who made it to the island are no more in the loop about what's really going on than the fools who sat in the Pearl hatch launching marble notebooks mindlessly into the jungle. Miles, Dan, Charlotte, Frank - they might believe their objective to be Ben Linus, but in my opinion that's just secondary. Don't get me wrong, I DO think that Abaddon & Co's goals certainly do include stopping whatever it is Ben is trying to accomplish. But I think the brains behind the operation know that such an accomplishment could be achieved even without Ben (i.e. Locke's new job). Which is why, for the sake of stopping the end event from happening, they take the Oceanic Six off the island.
Now, I don't think they could reach the island without the four people in that chopper. Abaddon knows this. Naomi's out of the loop too, she thinks the team is absurd - but he doesn't have to explain it to her. His `Get them in, get them out, make sure no one gets killed' speech is all fluff - he could care less what happens to them so long as they bring back the O6. We already know the island can't be found by normal means. It takes special people to get in... to be LET in. Frank the drunken pilot was already supposed to be on the island. Fate swapped places with his friend Seth, but his connection is most evident. Putting him in command of that chopper might well have been the only way for them to find the island (or metaphorically, to let the island find them). In short, Abaddon's tricking his way in.
Dan's got some type of connection too - he's crying when he sees the crash footage and doesn't have a clue why. He's a terrible liar, and seems overwhelmed by the freighter people - innocent and honest. Miles has some sort of gift enabling him to speak to the dead - an invaluable asset on the island since the dead already seem to have a voice of their own. His dust-buster does nothing but cover his voice as he shakes dead souls down for money, which is probably how they convinced him to go. And Charlotte I'm not sure of, but Abaddon got her there easily enough by duping her with Dharma tricks. The polar bear in the desert wasn't the first time she'd seen that logo, and she was chomping at the bit to go. Details are sketchy. One thing's for sure - the whole team is in the dark. Their own superiors "can't come to the phone right now", and none of them look very confident. Another thing I'm pretty sure of is that Ben's never been off island - photo or no photo. Unless you count him being off island the way Charlie was off island last episode, which makes just about anything possible.
Lost... surullista, kun väkisin jatkavat sarjaa. Olisivat olleet yhtä fiksuja kuin Lynch Twin Peaksin kanssa ja uskaltaneet luottaa perusideaan ja tarinaan ja lopettaa kun on sen aika.
Lost on uppoava laiva, joka jää historiaan epäonnistuneena sarjana, jossa oli ideaa, mutta jota eivät uskaltaneet lopettaa. Ja päättää. *sigh*
Lost on uppoava laiva, joka jää historiaan epäonnistuneena sarjana, jossa oli ideaa, mutta jota eivät uskaltaneet lopettaa. Ja päättää. *sigh*
johan ne on ilmottanu millon ne lopettaa.. älähän ny
_U @ yö, as usual.
twin peaksista sen verta (sori), ettei lynch kiireeltään ehtinyt juurikaan ohjaamaan season II:sen jaksoja. ja sitten kun hän tuli ohjaamaan viimeisen osan, niin se lähinnä suututti muuta väkeä jotka olivat kyseistä tuotantokautta tehneet. 3 tuotantokausi oli alun osalta jo kirjotettu (jonka huomaa vikan osan cliffhangereidenkin määrässä, kunten season I:n lopussa!), mutta rahaa ei irronnut, joten ns. torsoksi jäi.. joten eipä siinä nyt hirveän hohdokkaasti hommaa hoidettu. kyllä tuo lostin uusi seasoni on ollut kaikkea muuta kuin uppoava laiva!
johan ne on ilmottanu millon ne lopettaa.. älähän ny
Juu, toki ovat ilmoittaneet, mutta kenties tuli liian myöhään se päätös kun kakka oli jo housussa. Mut en tiedä. Nämä ovat vain mielipiteitä ja niin sen pitääkin olla.
Tumpsi-mussukka, äläs nyt. Miksi nyt taas tuollainen tunnekuohu? :)
crc, kyl sitä rahaa olis irronnut Twin Peaksin jatkoon, mut eivät halunneet jatkaa, koska tiesivät muuten sarjan olevan pilalla. Lostin olisi kannattanut toimia samalla tavalla, mutta turha sitä enää mussuttaa kun peli on jo pelattu ja on jo liian myöhäistä. Lost menetti tilaisuutensa jäädä historian kirjoihin, mut nyt se jää vain surullisena tapauksena, esimerkkinä ahneudesta ja kenties myös tietämättömyydestä. *sigh*
Cowabunga!
Lost viihdyttää meikäläistä nyt neljännellä kaudellaan paremmin kuin koskaan, ja tuorein jakso "The Constant" oli parhaita koko sarjan historiassa. Henry Ian Cusick on näyttelijäkaartin vahvimpia lenkkejä.
neljannen kauden ensimmaisen jakson olen katsonut, ja kun olen netista katsonut, pitaa sanoa etta on aika monta kohtaa jaannyt nakematta. hyva ohjelma, mukava katsoa. muistan alkuaikoina kun oli semmosia ns. pelottavia kohtia, sitten jossain vaiheessa tuli pelkkaa draamaa, ja sitten pelottavuus jatkui tuossa neljannen tuotantokauden alussa. hyva nain.
onneks laululoput jäi ekalle kaudelle. lé horror.
Äsken tuli katottua neloskauden uusin jakso: The Shape Of Things To Come
No, paras Lost jakso tähän mennessä, ei voi sen enempää voi hehkuttaa.
Seuraavaa odotellessa!!
Eka flashforward?? :eek: :eek:
No, paras Lost jakso tähän mennessä, ei voi sen enempää voi hehkuttaa.
Seuraavaa odotellessa!!
Eka flashforward?? :eek: :eek:
Neloskauden 13-14 katottu äskettäin... Aika hiljentävää, minkäänlaiset konnotaatiot eivät voi korvata kys. jaksoja.
''Big wheel keeps on turning'' by Massive Attack.
''Big wheel keeps on turning'' by Massive Attack.
(spoiler alert..............)
<DRAMA> VICTORY!!! </DRAMA>
Chalk two down in the WIN column, boys.
About damn time, Lost _finally_ goes FULL GREGO! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Tästä ei pidot parane!! :hearts: :confused: :hah:
LIITULAKU huudettu, "event window determined".
<DRAMA> VICTORY!!! </DRAMA>
Chalk two down in the WIN column, boys.
About damn time, Lost _finally_ goes FULL GREGO! :eek: :eek: :eek:
Tästä ei pidot parane!! :hearts: :confused: :hah:
LIITULAKU huudettu, "event window determined".
melkosta skifiä ollu tuo vitoskauden alku